Sanctuary
Welcome to Sanctuary Clan Forum !

<img src="https://i.servimg.com/u/f42/17/12/76/81/untitl10.png" class="center" />

Sanctuary
Welcome to Sanctuary Clan Forum !

<img src="https://i.servimg.com/u/f42/17/12/76/81/untitl10.png" class="center" />

Sanctuary
Would you like to react to this message? Create an account in a few clicks or log in to continue.


Official forum for Sanctuary Clan
 
HomeLatest imagesRegisterLog in
Latest topics
» Babes in LoL 2012
Vayne, a question I_icon_minitimeThu Jun 07, 2012 5:51 pm by YourMother

» Introduction of Noxian members
Vayne, a question I_icon_minitimeWed May 30, 2012 8:25 am by Irelia

» Anger Management 101: How To Stop Raging In Your Games.
Vayne, a question I_icon_minitimeSun May 27, 2012 4:16 pm by Solsticex

» LoL Shoutcasting and Commentating Anyone?
Vayne, a question I_icon_minitimeSun May 27, 2012 10:08 am by SANCT.Danielle

» Update on Cryptonia
Vayne, a question I_icon_minitimeThu May 17, 2012 9:31 pm by Koskesh

» Introduction
Vayne, a question I_icon_minitimeSun May 13, 2012 4:45 pm by waver

» Keep Laughing, keep dreaming, cherish every moments & memories...... Goodbye.
Vayne, a question I_icon_minitimeSun May 13, 2012 1:01 pm by Graceless

» Le Random Troll Thread xD
Vayne, a question I_icon_minitimeSun May 13, 2012 1:00 pm by Graceless

» Varus, the Arrow of Retribution
Vayne, a question I_icon_minitimeSun May 13, 2012 5:54 am by trexene

» Rolecall :D
Vayne, a question I_icon_minitimeFri May 11, 2012 7:57 am by ShadeHattori

» Sanctuary Inhouses
Vayne, a question I_icon_minitimeFri May 11, 2012 6:45 am by Koskesh

» Self - Introduction.
Vayne, a question I_icon_minitimeThu May 10, 2012 3:17 pm by noxofthedusk

» [Dan's Pimp House] --- *NEWS* NIL
Vayne, a question I_icon_minitimeThu May 10, 2012 3:34 am by Luv

» Ask questions here
Vayne, a question I_icon_minitimeWed May 09, 2012 2:17 pm by Afroman747

» LOLOLOLOL, dani got a fierce face :P
Vayne, a question I_icon_minitimeWed May 09, 2012 1:12 pm by John4orth

» Just some notification
Vayne, a question I_icon_minitimeTue May 08, 2012 11:32 am by Luv

» Terraria players
Vayne, a question I_icon_minitimeMon May 07, 2012 7:56 pm by Afroman747

» Training - What you wanna learn?
Vayne, a question I_icon_minitimeSat May 05, 2012 11:03 am by Afroman747

» Le Graceless rock/alternatives playlist
Vayne, a question I_icon_minitimeSat May 05, 2012 10:46 am by Afroman747

» Whats your TOP 5 favorite songs?? Yo
Vayne, a question I_icon_minitimeSat May 05, 2012 10:39 am by Afroman747

CLAN PAGE
YOUTUBE
FACEBOOK PAGE
Most active topics
[Dan's Pimp House] --- *NEWS* NIL
Three word story! Sanctuary style!! Start!!
Ask me any question about AD Carry
CLOSED THREAD
Update on the ranks
Lucky Bastard Giveaway 2
Explain it to me...
Lucky Bastard Giveaway
LETS SKYPE and make playing more fun! :D
Monster Hunter [PSP]
Top posters
SANCT.Danielle
Vayne, a question Vote10Vayne, a question Vote10Vayne, a question Vote10 
killjoy
Vayne, a question Vote10Vayne, a question Vote10Vayne, a question Vote10 
Luv
Vayne, a question Vote10Vayne, a question Vote10Vayne, a question Vote10 
Irelia
Vayne, a question Vote10Vayne, a question Vote10Vayne, a question Vote10 
SANCT. Neszlo
Vayne, a question Vote10Vayne, a question Vote10Vayne, a question Vote10 
SANCT.Psuedo
Vayne, a question Vote10Vayne, a question Vote10Vayne, a question Vote10 
John4orth
Vayne, a question Vote10Vayne, a question Vote10Vayne, a question Vote10 
Graceless
Vayne, a question Vote10Vayne, a question Vote10Vayne, a question Vote10 
Vik_0r
Vayne, a question Vote10Vayne, a question Vote10Vayne, a question Vote10 
kenp1m
Vayne, a question Vote10Vayne, a question Vote10Vayne, a question Vote10 
ChatBox


 

 Vayne, a question

Go down 
AuthorMessage
DaNoob
Silver
DaNoob


Posts : 55
Join date : 2011-12-23
Age : 47
Location : Singapore

Vayne, a question Empty
PostSubject: Vayne, a question   Vayne, a question I_icon_minitimeSun Jan 29, 2012 8:40 pm

I think I finally understand what makes Vayne tick. And this thread is both to share this knowledge, and to also verify with our AD-carry experts if the following is correct.

(actually, the 2nd point is why I am bothering to type this in the first place. Can someone check if I am correct?)



The key is, and has always been, Vayne's silver bolts. It does a metric ton of damage. And that's TRUE damage. And that's ENEMY HP % True damage. In just 5 procs of silver bolts, the % TRUE damage and the Flat TRUE damage can add up to anywhere from 40% to 50% of an opponent's HP, depending on how squishy he is.

Porcing this skill by hitting 3 times is the (obvious) key to use Vayne.



The TRUE hidden key (IMO) for Vayne is this: you can porc silver bolts quite often even without a single attack-speed item.

Of course, by the end game, you should have attack-speed items (that goes without saying), but before getting even one of those attack speed items you should still be able to produce quite an amazing amount of rate-of-fire. This is especially important during the laning phase and the mid-game (both phases which I used to struggle all the time, and thus fail with Vayne in the past)

This rate-of-fire is improved by using her skills. Both Q and E are attack abilities that porc silver bolts, and Q is both spammable AND resets your attack animation AND repositions/chases to attack more (especially note that higher levels of Q has even less cooldown).

Or: Q enables you to make sure you can shoot the opponent, it also enables you to shoot the opponent faster if you use it immediately after a normal shot leaves your crossbow. And it is quite spammable, thus making sure you shoot faster all the time. And E also helps add another silver ring onto the opponent AND can be used as an interrupt too...

... and all the combo attack-cancelling stacks damage like crazy: not only silver bolts is porced and porced often, Q and E both stacks quite a lot of bonus damage on top of that.

Remember to watch your mana thou. Spamming skills as such tends to burn out your mana quite quickly, especially in the laning phase.



So, i think the following should be done for Vayne players:

Skills
Prioritize the skills as follows:
Q-W-E for the first three skill points, then followed by maxing W (silver bolts), followed by Q then E. (obviously, R should be taken as soon as you can take it)

Items
Get survivability items and boots in the early game (2 or 3 Doran stacking), since all your early damage is going to come from high-leveled (or max leveled) Silver bolts anyways.

Get a BFSword right after Doran stacking, as Doran's alone provide absolutely crappy damage. Silver bolts may cause a lot of damage, but high normal damage can't hurt.

Get level 2 boots next. Attack speed boots are not a necessity, either movement 3 boots or tenacity boots will be good enough. (Tenacity boots obviously depends on the opponent...)

Then build one of the standard big AD damage items using the BFSword as appropriate (I usually go for Bloodthirster as the first item, as the lifesteal is a nice complement to high amounts of True damage from silver bolts).

Followed by a maybe: depending on how hard the team is being snowballed, build a PD or other attack speed item now... or later. The above reasoning on attack speed is why attack speed items is not an absolutely necessary step so soon after your first big damage item.

No matter your choice in (not) building an attack speed item, it is pretty obvious you'd be going for a second standard big AD damage item after. Note that this is (perhaps?) what makes Vayne scary: loads of early damage, and thanks to the skill's attack reset she is not lacking in attack speed.

Lastly build survival items again as my last one or two items, as the Dorans should be long sold off by then.

Strategy
During laning, harassing is pretty simple: hit 3 times, or don't bother.
You can do this by either hit-Q-hit-hit, or hit-Q-hit-E. or any combination of. Note that if you can pin an opponent to the wall... it means your opponent is stupid enough to let you do so (the lane is pretty wide)

Mid-game is just like early-game, but try to use E to knock an opponent into a wall especially if in the jungle as that will stun them for a significant amount of time... thus giving you quite a bit of time to shoot and proc Silver bolts en-massed. If undisturbed and using Vayne low-cooldown ulti at the same time, it is quite possible to remove huge chunks of hp within a short amount of time without any retaliation, even if the pinned enemy is a tank.

During late-game... you have attack speed items. Use Q only to get/keep in position, R often if you think you're going to spend a lot of time standing on one spot shooting (it cooldowns fast enough for you to "spam" it), and just auto-fire away. E is still used as mid-game.


So, comments?
Back to top Go down
DaNoob
Silver
DaNoob


Posts : 55
Join date : 2011-12-23
Age : 47
Location : Singapore

Vayne, a question Empty
PostSubject: Re: Vayne, a question   Vayne, a question I_icon_minitimeMon Jan 30, 2012 5:53 pm

No comments?
Back to top Go down
Guest
Guest




Vayne, a question Empty
PostSubject: Re: Vayne, a question   Vayne, a question I_icon_minitimeMon Jan 30, 2012 5:56 pm

Building aspd boots + a pd after your damage item is better... You're a sustained damage dealer not a burst one

maxing tumble is fine but calling it a spam spell is ukkh. its fine that youre making use of tumble's auto attack reset that most people dont know about but attack speed is still as imporant.... you're gonna do peanuts damage without a pd.

i personally go R>W>E>Q
Back to top Go down
Sponsored content





Vayne, a question Empty
PostSubject: Re: Vayne, a question   Vayne, a question I_icon_minitime

Back to top Go down
 
Vayne, a question
Back to top 
Page 1 of 1
 Similar topics
-
» Everything you do will be in Vayne(unfinished)
» A question?
» Ask me any question about AD Carry
» Question on "Aggro"-type supports
» A question about the Legion

Permissions in this forum:You cannot reply to topics in this forum
Sanctuary  :: League Of Legends :: Guides and Strategies-
Jump to: